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From:  "Tim Bushaw" <bushawtime@plasmadrum.com>
Subject:  Car claim Bob
Date:  Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:47:56 -0500
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>
>Tom Teska is a very funny guy. He's also an adult Korean adoptee. Here's a sample from his blog. Prepare to be offended. Then read the rest of the blog. Some great stuff.
>
>Tom Teska - South Korea Needs Babies
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 10:03 PM   0 comments
>
>Korea Single Moms, Divorced or Widowed, and Their Kids - Tough Going
>
>When we wonder why unmarried women in Korea still consider adoption as a viable option, here's another look as to why
>
>Single mothers work, shop, help with homework, and are often challenged by the numerous demands of family life. In the eyes of their children they are often heroes, but in South Korea, single parents are treated with disdain
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 9:54 PM   0 comments
>
>Saturday, November 26, 2005
>More birthfamily musings
>
>As I was giving my son his usual nighttime routine - hugs, go get water, drink water, toss cup into trash for 2 points, more hugs - he wanted to know if his birth parents thought about him.
>
>"I know you're never far from your birth mom's thoughts, kiddo, and I know she's not far from yours. Plenty of room to love all your moms (including the transitional foster mom before he joined us.)
>
>"How old would she be now?"
>
>"Around 30 or so."
>
>"She still couldn't raise me?"
>
>"No, honey. She was a young, scared single woman when she had you. Korea makes it very hard for unmarried moms to raise their babies. But she'll always be a mom to you because you carry a piece of her inside you always. But I'm the lucky mom because I got to raise you and watch you grow every day. When we visit Korea in a few years we'll check out your file and see what else we can find out."
>
>"We won't know Korean."
>
>"We'll get a translator to help us."
>
>-- I focused on his birthmom because we have more information. At this point, I'm not sure if birthdad ever knew about the pregnancy. More and more it looks like many time the adoptive parents get a sanitized version of the family history; the harder stuff remains in the file. At age 8 I'm not ready to reveal that part of "I don't know" regarding birth dad.
>
>But I know for sure that no woman who ever gives birth ever stops thinking about her baby. I always want to be honest in the information I have and what my best guesses are, just delivered in an age-appropriate fashion.
>
>During teacher conference, she remarked how relaxed and comfortable my son is in his own skin. Sociable and helpful, friendly and sensitive to others -- she never would have know he was the new boy in school. She also noted his insatiable need to know about people - how they were when children, their favorite shows, foods, etc.
>
>There's no question this "need to know" is reflected in his own musings about who he is.
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 11:16 AM   0 comments
>
>Tuesday, November 22, 2005
>A biological cause of behavior?
>
>Very interesting article about a recent study of bio vs. adopted children who spent their earliest years in institutional care
>
>A biological cause of behavior?
>
>Very provocative findings.
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 11:22 AM   0 comments
>
>Friday, November 18, 2005
>Finding a place in 2 worlds
>
>Saw this article:
>
>As more Jews adopt, perceptions of Jewish identity change
>
>Strikes me that both families profiled are having trouble finding balance. My 8 year-old describes himself as a Korean-American Jew - so which comes first? The noun or the double modifier?
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 10:32 AM   1 comments
>
>Monday, November 14, 2005
>Race Matters - and a whole lot more.
>
>Yahoo news has a report this morning regarding bullying in schools,
>specifically targeting Asians--a distressing read to start the week
>
>Asian Youths Suffer Harassment in Schools
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 12:19 PM   0 comments
>
>Sunday, November 13, 2005
>Been hectic!
>
>It's been a hectic few weeks... report cards tomorrow, teacher conferences the following week (oh boy, can't wait for those!), and getting AdoptShoppe fully in gear for the holidays. (Visit when you get a chance. Several new children's books have been added and we just got in our Chinese Baby Shoes Shadowboxes - we're down to just 16 left to sell - very popular last year.)
>
>We went to a bat mitzvah this past weekend, last kid of the original group of 4 who started Torah for Tots when they were all age 3. (Can't believe how fast 10 years goes by.)
>
>Our former rabbi asked us if we made the right choice leaving our old community for the new. My reply? Yes, and every day when I open the Metro section of the Washington Post, I'm convinced even more. We went by our old house. Lawn is overgrown, ankle deep in leaves, dead flowers in the hanging baskets. So much love went into that house for 15 years. Sad to sit it looking shabby when it postively glowed 6 months ago.
>
>Uh oh, I'm getting nostalgic. Sorry.
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 8:11 PM   0 comments
>
>Tuesday, October 25, 2005
>Another "Why Don't They Get It!" Moment
>
>Article from the Chicago Sun-Times:
>
>Doll 'adoptions' are offensive, say real-life adoption advocates
>
>Amen, Brother.
>
>
>

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Subject:  Account negative: Bob
Date:  Sat, 10 Dec 2005 04:35:55 -0500
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>
>Tom Teska is a very funny guy. He's also an adult Korean adoptee. Here's a sample from his blog. Prepare to be offended. Then read the rest of the blog. Some great stuff.
>
>Tom Teska - South Korea Needs Babies
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 10:03 PM   0 comments
>
>Korea Single Moms, Divorced or Widowed, and Their Kids - Tough Going
>
>When we wonder why unmarried women in Korea still consider adoption as a viable option, here's another look as to why
>
>Single mothers work, shop, help with homework, and are often challenged by the numerous demands of family life. In the eyes of their children they are often heroes, but in South Korea, single parents are treated with disdain
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 9:54 PM   0 comments
>
>Saturday, November 26, 2005
>More birthfamily musings
>
>As I was giving my son his usual nighttime routine - hugs, go get water, drink water, toss cup into trash for 2 points, more hugs - he wanted to know if his birth parents thought about him.
>
>"I know you're never far from your birth mom's thoughts, kiddo, and I know she's not far from yours. Plenty of room to love all your moms (including the transitional foster mom before he joined us.)
>
>"How old would she be now?"
>
>"Around 30 or so."
>
>"She still couldn't raise me?"
>
>"No, honey. She was a young, scared single woman when she had you. Korea makes it very hard for unmarried moms to raise their babies. But she'll always be a mom to you because you carry a piece of her inside you always. But I'm the lucky mom because I got to raise you and watch you grow every day. When we visit Korea in a few years we'll check out your file and see what else we can find out."
>
>"We won't know Korean."
>
>"We'll get a translator to help us."
>
>-- I focused on his birthmom because we have more information. At this point, I'm not sure if birthdad ever knew about the pregnancy. More and more it looks like many time the adoptive parents get a sanitized version of the family history; the harder stuff remains in the file. At age 8 I'm not ready to reveal that part of "I don't know" regarding birth dad.
>
>But I know for sure that no woman who ever gives birth ever stops thinking about her baby. I always want to be honest in the information I have and what my best guesses are, just delivered in an age-appropriate fashion.
>
>During teacher conference, she remarked how relaxed and comfortable my son is in his own skin. Sociable and helpful, friendly and sensitive to others -- she never would have know he was the new boy in school. She also noted his insatiable need to know about people - how they were when children, their favorite shows, foods, etc.
>
>There's no question this "need to know" is reflected in his own musings about who he is.
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 11:16 AM   0 comments
>
>Tuesday, November 22, 2005
>A biological cause of behavior?
>
>Very interesting article about a recent study of bio vs. adopted children who spent their earliest years in institutional care
>
>A biological cause of behavior?
>
>Very provocative findings.
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 11:22 AM   0 comments
>
>Friday, November 18, 2005
>Finding a place in 2 worlds
>
>Saw this article:
>
>As more Jews adopt, perceptions of Jewish identity change
>
>Strikes me that both families profiled are having trouble finding balance. My 8 year-old describes himself as a Korean-American Jew - so which comes first? The noun or the double modifier?
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 10:32 AM   1 comments
>
>Monday, November 14, 2005
>Race Matters - and a whole lot more.
>
>Yahoo news has a report this morning regarding bullying in schools,
>specifically targeting Asians--a distressing read to start the week
>
>Asian Youths Suffer Harassment in Schools
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 12:19 PM   0 comments
>
>Sunday, November 13, 2005
>Been hectic!
>
>It's been a hectic few weeks... report cards tomorrow, teacher conferences the following week (oh boy, can't wait for those!), and getting AdoptShoppe fully in gear for the holidays. (Visit when you get a chance. Several new children's books have been added and we just got in our Chinese Baby Shoes Shadowboxes - we're down to just 16 left to sell - very popular last year.)
>
>We went to a bat mitzvah this past weekend, last kid of the original group of 4 who started Torah for Tots when they were all age 3. (Can't believe how fast 10 years goes by.)
>
>Our former rabbi asked us if we made the right choice leaving our old community for the new. My reply? Yes, and every day when I open the Metro section of the Washington Post, I'm convinced even more. We went by our old house. Lawn is overgrown, ankle deep in leaves, dead flowers in the hanging baskets. So much love went into that house for 15 years. Sad to sit it looking shabby when it postively glowed 6 months ago.
>
>Uh oh, I'm getting nostalgic. Sorry.
>
>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 8:11 PM   0 comments
>
>Tuesday, October 25, 2005
>Another "Why Don't They Get It!" Moment
>
>Article from the Chicago Sun-Times:
>
>Doll 'adoptions' are offensive, say real-life adoption advocates
>
>Amen, Brother.
>
>
>

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Subject:  Shop til ya drop on our dime
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E poi, diciamo la verita', quanti sono gli italiani, in Italia come

all'estero, che conoscono l'italiano ma non si interessano di

politica e tanto meno del cosiddetto "teatrino" della stessa?

Non sara' che l'ostacolo alla partecipazione non e' la lingua ma il

disinteresse suscitato da un certo modo di "fare politica"?

Tonio 2005-12-08 13:08 Il bonus pensioni, pro e contro

Sono al bivio: arrivare ai 40 col bonus o senza? Vedo che non se ne

parla sul Forum e i pareri da me raccolti si equivalgono. Propenderei

per il no. Mi aiutate?

Tonio 2005-12-08 13:08 Il bonus pensioni, pro e contro Ne abbiamo

parlato qualche mese fa. restano validi i suggerimenti dati allora.

Eccoli:

La scelta � di carattere squisitamente personale. A qualcuno, ad

esempio, pu� far comodo l'aumento dello stipendio netto che si

ottiene grazie al bonus pensionistico (il 33% dello stipendio). A

qualcun altro pu� far piacere poter contare su una pensione un po'

pi� ricca e quindi continuare a lavorare con il normale accredito dei

contributi. La scelta del bonus, infatti, fa sterilizzare la pensione

che verr� erogata in base all'importo maturato fino a quel momento

pi� gli scatti di scala mobile intervenuti successivamente e fino al

momento dell'effettivo pensionamento.

In linea di massima si pu� dire che, se lo stipendio annuo lordo

supera i 37.000 euro, il bonus � pi� conveniente e la convenienza

cresce all'aumentare del reddito. Questo per effetto dell'Ire che �

una imposta progressiva e per il fatto che oltre i 37.884 euro di

stipendio le aliquote di calcolo della pensione sono decrescenti. In

altre parole un anno di lavoro non vale pi� il 2%, ma sempre meno al

salire del reddito, fino a scendere allo 0,9%.

L'effetto dell'Ire non va sottovalutato. Con una retribuzione lorda

annua di 24.000 euro, il bonus porta a un aumento mensile di circa

600 euro netti, il 45% in pi� dello stipendio. A 35.000 euro

l'incremento mensile � di circa 815 euro, pi� 48%. Il dirigente con

una retribuzione lorda di 59.000 euro ne guadagna 1.378 in pi� al

mese con un incremento del 53%. Il manager con 80.000 euro di

retribuzione lorda annua vede crescere la sua busta paga di quasi

1.900 euro netti al mese, che corrispondono a un incremento di quasi

il 55%.

Umberto Martinengo, e-mail: umberto@coasit.com.au

Non se n'abbia a male, caro Martinengo, ma le obiezioni sarebbero

cos� tante che rinuncio ad affrontare tutti i punti della sua

lettera. Lei mescola argomenti diversi e ne trae conclusioni curiose.

Ripeto: conoscere un poco la lingua italiana sarebbe doveroso, per chi

vuole la cittadinanza. Dimostrerebbe interesse per l'Italia e

aiuterebbe a capire per chi/per cosa si vota. Il resto - mi perdoni -

sono chiacchiere. Se vuole continuare la discussione, caro Martinengo,

risponda a questa domanda: � vero o non � vero che moltissimi nel

mondo chiedono il passaporto italiano solo per convenienza, e non

hanno alcun interesse per l'Italia? Chieda un po' nei nostri

consolati, e vedr� cosa le dicono.

Lo diceva anche Massimo D'Alema, giorni fa (mi fa una certa

impressione trovarmi d'accordo con lui: ma tant'�). Perch� la moglie

del presidente brasiliano Lula deve avere il passaporto italiano e un

"foglietto in italiano che non aveva neppure ben capito" (il

certificato elettorale!)? Solo perch� la bisnonna aveva sposato un

italiano? Non sarebbe meglio premiare gli uomini e le donne che, da

molti anni, vivono, lavorano e pagano le tasse in Italia, e si sono

sempre comportati bene?

Capisco che il caso della benestante Australia sia diverso, e il

"passaporto utilitartistico" sia meno appettibile che altrove nel

mondo. E sono disposto a partecipare, magari in gennaio, al programma

cui mi ha invitato nella seconda parte della lettera (radio nazionale

australiana SBS, che trasmette in circa 60 lingue diverse

dall'inglese, tra cui appunto l'italiano). Ma per favore non dica in

diretta che il requisito della lingua "costringerebbe all'espatrio

forzoso quelle centinaia di migliaia di italiani analfabeti, di

andata o ritorno che dir si voglia". O meglio, lo dica, se vuole. Ma

poi non mi chieda di commentare!

Venerdi' 9 Dicembre 2005

Da quando c'� l'ondata dal Sudamerica, per noi italiani andare al

Consolato � diventato un incubo Giusi Garigali

Tav: opera necessaria, ma giuste proteste Massimo Ricciardi

Calcio: gli stadi non sono (ancora) sicuri Marco Teli

Liceo classico: non mi pento di averlo scelto Daniela Negro

La Chiesa, Galileo e la terra rotonda Martino Bellani

Fazio e Consorte Giovanni Fattori

Storia Usa: la leggenda dei puritani perseguitati Mirko Levi

La sfida nella sala del ritiro bagagli Michele Bruno

Il boom degli addobbi natalizi Luca Bertellini

Le scrivo a nome degli Zuritalians... Antonio Di Carlo

LA DODICESIMA LETTERA Paolo Paggetti

gioved�, 08 dicembre 2005

...chi porter� con me?

In quanti, da duemila e pi� di mille e mille e mille ancora di anni

fa, mi hanno portato qui?

Dal paradiso terrestre, diciamo?

Io non voglio portare nessuno negli anni tremila.

Non trovo niente di interessante tranne la comunicazione che valga la

pena non mollare.

Ancora guerre. Ancora morti di fame. Ancora fuggiaschi. Ancora esuli.

Ancora povert�.

Ancora ricchezza.

Tutti i figli che avrei voluto e non ho potuto avere non se ne

pentiranno, quelli che non mi hanno voluto padre non ce l'avrebbero

fatta.

postato da: ayakke alle ore 21:47 | mercoled�, 07 dicembre 2005

Tempo di blog, comunit� o individualismo?

Sono qui, a casa e cerco di esaurire strascici di pensieri prima che

trovino spazio sufficiente per vivere e fare i propri comodi nella

mia testa.

Bisognerebbe riuscire a tagliare la lenza e lasciare che tutto

ritorni nei suoi fondali, nel vastissimo mare dell'anonimato della

comunit� dei blogger.

E' il grosso vantaggio di questa riunione virtuale in questo festival

del personalismo, del diario, dell'interesse verso le vicende dei

nostri compagni di avventura, riuscire a sfuggire alla trappola dei

sentimenti, e emigrare in un'altro degli innumerevoli atolli che

costellano questo arcipelago del weblog.

Prover� a costruire una barriera che filtri i pensieri, i sentimenti

e i bisogni di chi ci sta intorno. No non � egoismo, � solo il

diritto e l'obbligo di imparare ad ascoltare, restando distaccati e,

pur partecipando attivamente al reciproco scambio di commenti,

riuscire a comprendere quando c'� qualcosa di profondo o solamente

superficiale, e non discriminare i blog in "originali" o "raccolte"

di segnalazioni da altri blog.

Se quello che si cerca � solo divertimento e curiosit�, ebbene i

migliori sono i "diari" personali e sono decisamente i pi� numerosi e

piacevoli. Quelli utili, sono sicuramente quelli tematici, dove un

esperto (per professione o per hobby) di un certo tema ci segnala le

notizie interessanti e ci propone le sue ricerche, soprattutto quelle

artistiche.

Come blogger faccio parte di una comunit� o sono un individualista?

Probabilmente entrambe le cose. Il blog � mio e ci scrivo ci� che

voglio senza regole. Per molti, il blog � la rivincita

sull'informazione omologata.

I sentimenti che portano alla nascita dei blog sono la voglia di

parlare di noi stessi, della nostra vita e di ci� che ci succede e

farlo liberamente.

Per me il blog � anche motivo di conoscenze, di amicizie, pi� o meno

durature, con la speranza che l'anonimato serva solo a proteggere e

non ad ingannare.

postato da: ayakke alle ore 09:44 |

categorie: tempi

luned�, 05 dicembre 2005

ABBANDONATO AL RICORDO

Nuoto nel fondo del mio mare di ricordi di parole incerte, e abitato

dai giganti della fantasia.

Ogni volta che ritorno a galla sono senza la voglia di raccontarmi

ci� che ho vissuto.

Risento una strana musica, come acqua corrente o vento, agitarsi

ritmicamente attorno.

Cancello dalla memoria forme e sogni: faccio schizzi di baci sulla

tela che conduce al termine.

Ho voglia di bere vini ecclesiastici e proibiti, guardando un corpo

che s'allunga imp�dico e odoroso.

Quieto, abbandonato alla pigrizia, fumo.

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Subject:  Homeland Security/Law Enforcement are Hiring
Date:  Fri, 9 Dec 2005 19:14:45 EST

Dear Friends, If you cannot view the images in this message, enable images or visit here to see this newsletter.

E poi, diciamo la verita', quanti sono gli italiani, in Italia come

all'estero, che conoscono l'italiano ma non si interessano di

politica e tanto meno del cosiddetto "teatrino" della stessa?

Non sara' che l'ostacolo alla partecipazione non e' la lingua ma il

disinteresse suscitato da un certo modo di "fare politica"?

Tonio 2005-12-08 13:08 Il bonus pensioni, pro e contro

Sono al bivio: arrivare ai 40 col bonus o senza? Vedo che non se ne

parla sul Forum e i pareri da me raccolti si equivalgono. Propenderei

per il no. Mi aiutate?

Tonio 2005-12-08 13:08 Il bonus pensioni, pro e contro Ne abbiamo

parlato qualche mese fa. restano validi i suggerimenti dati allora.

Eccoli:

La scelta � di carattere squisitamente personale. A qualcuno, ad

esempio, pu� far comodo l'aumento dello stipendio netto che si

ottiene grazie al bonus pensionistico (il 33% dello stipendio). A

qualcun altro pu� far piacere poter contare su una pensione un po'

pi� ricca e quindi continuare a lavorare con il normale accredito dei

contributi. La scelta del bonus, infatti, fa sterilizzare la pensione

che verr� erogata in base all'importo maturato fino a quel momento

pi� gli scatti di scala mobile intervenuti successivamente e fino al

momento dell'effettivo pensionamento.

In linea di massima si pu� dire che, se lo stipendio annuo lordo

supera i 37.000 euro, il bonus � pi� conveniente e la convenienza

cresce all'aumentare del reddito. Questo per effetto dell'Ire che �

una imposta progressiva e per il fatto che oltre i 37.884 euro di

stipendio le aliquote di calcolo della pensione sono decrescenti. In

altre parole un anno di lavoro non vale pi� il 2%, ma sempre meno al

salire del reddito, fino a scendere allo 0,9%.

L'effetto dell'Ire non va sottovalutato. Con una retribuzione lorda

annua di 24.000 euro, il bonus porta a un aumento mensile di circa

600 euro netti, il 45% in pi� dello stipendio. A 35.000 euro

l'incremento mensile � di circa 815 euro, pi� 48%. Il dirigente con

una retribuzione lorda di 59.000 euro ne guadagna 1.378 in pi� al

mese con un incremento del 53%. Il manager con 80.000 euro di

retribuzione lorda annua vede crescere la sua busta paga di quasi

1.900 euro netti al mese, che corrispondono a un incremento di quasi

il 55%.

Umberto Martinengo, e-mail: umberto@coasit.com.au

Non se n'abbia a male, caro Martinengo, ma le obiezioni sarebbero

cos� tante che rinuncio ad affrontare tutti i punti della sua

lettera. Lei mescola argomenti diversi e ne trae conclusioni curiose.

Ripeto: conoscere un poco la lingua italiana sarebbe doveroso, per chi

vuole la cittadinanza. Dimostrerebbe interesse per l'Italia e

aiuterebbe a capire per chi/per cosa si vota. Il resto - mi perdoni -

sono chiacchiere. Se vuole continuare la discussione, caro Martinengo,

risponda a questa domanda: � vero o non � vero che moltissimi nel

mondo chiedono il passaporto italiano solo per convenienza, e non

hanno alcun interesse per l'Italia? Chieda un po' nei nostri

consolati, e vedr� cosa le dicono.

Lo diceva anche Massimo D'Alema, giorni fa (mi fa una certa

impressione trovarmi d'accordo con lui: ma tant'�). Perch� la moglie

del presidente brasiliano Lula deve avere il passaporto italiano e un

"foglietto in italiano che non aveva neppure ben capito" (il

certificato elettorale!)? Solo perch� la bisnonna aveva sposato un

italiano? Non sarebbe meglio premiare gli uomini e le donne che, da

molti anni, vivono, lavorano e pagano le tasse in Italia, e si sono

sempre comportati bene?

Paggetti

gioved�, 08 dicembre 2005

...chi porter� con me?

In quanti, da duemila e pi� di mille e mille e mille ancora di anni

fa, mi hanno portato qui?

Dal paradiso terrestre, diciamo?

Io non voglio portare nessuno negli anni tremila.

Non trovo niente di interessante tranne la comunicazione che valga la

pena non mollare.

Ancora guerre. Ancora morti di fame. Ancora fuggiaschi. Ancora esuli.

Ancora povert�.

Ancora ricchezza.

Tutti i figli che avrei voluto e non ho potuto avere non se ne

pentiranno, quelli che non mi hanno voluto padre non ce l'avrebbero

fatta.

Went to a house today to consult on a service upgrade. Problem is, I can't determine what I am upgrading from. There was no main disconnect either at the house distribution panel or outside at the meter. There was just a meter there! I think it's safe to assume, then, that if a house was wired back when this was considered legitimate practice, that it's

probably a 60amp servive. However, I'd like to be able also to determine for sure what is the size of the existing wire, to see if it has to be changed to accomodate a 100a upgrade. But the wire from the meter to the distribution panel is unlabeled cloth-covered red and black, with uninsulated stranded neutral (no grounding wire). And of couse I can't tell

what is coming into the meter from the mast since the poco is none too fond of us snipping off their little locks.

Any advice?

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" meter to the distribution panel is unlabeled cloth-covered red and black, with uninsulated stranded neutral (no grounding wire). "

I think it is completely safe to assume you will be starting from scratch.... reguardless of wire size.

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I don't understand why you are concerned with wire sizes, of what is being torn out.

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Member posted 11-30-2005 07:31 AM

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Determining wire size, insulation and ampacity used to be one of the test problems in the practical section of the NYC Electrician's exam. You have to measure the diameter of one strand with a micrometer, calculate the cross-sectional area and multiply it by the total number of strands in order to get the overall cross-sectional area of the conductor. You

then have to determine the type of insulation. The old NYC code book is a bit different from our current NEC code book but you'll find the information in Chapter 9, Table 4 for wire size, then go to the ampacity tables.;)

BTW, this information is just for your reference, I'd rip the old stuff out too. The guy at the scrap yard only cares how much it weighs.

Andy

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Member posted 11-30-2005 11:30 AM

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I wouldn't concern myself with what is existing. As long as you are upgrading the service, replace the SE cable with a four wire cable,(Two hots, a neutral and a ground) bond the water, the water meter, put in a new electrode, replace the meter can, add a main disconnect and charge the customer for all of it.

Sounds like the existing dates back to mid 1950's or earlier and I'm sure it's not up to today's code anyway.

In michigan, they still allow a 3 wire SE cable but, I know some states no longer do.

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Thanks for your responses.

LK - I was concerned with wire sizes because we have not yet determined what would be torn out. Also, I will want to determine if the service entrance wires (from mast head to meter) are sized for 100a. Sometimes, even where the service was 60a, the wire installed was capable of carrying 100a.

Andy - thanks. I was wondering if there was some sort of caliper for measuring wire, and since you mention a micrometer I guess that answers my question. But i never heard of a micrometer. Where would I find one? Do people still even use these?

Thanks again, folks.

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Member posted 11-30-2005 08:28 PM

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micrometers are used by machinists to determine exact measurements of the thicknesses of metals. Check out this: http://www.mytoolstore.com/starrett/microndx.html

for some pics. (the micrometers are the ones on the right.)

Dan McGillis - #6 - Defense - 6'2" - 230lbs

News: Dan McGillis was a healthy scratch against the Red Wings last night.

Impact: It was the second straight game the Devils' defenseman was forced to sit in the press box. With Sean Brown playing so well, coach Larry Robinson has been forced to rotate his blueliners in and out of the lineup. Expect this practice to continue. (Thu. Dec 8, 2005)

Scott Clemmensen - #40 - Goaltender - 6'3" - 205lbs

News: Scott Clemmensen will likely start in goal for the Devils this evening against the Red Wings.

Impact: The New Jersey backup hasn't played in a month and we are not sure that a date with Detroit is the best spot for him to return to action. We would advise you not to activate Clemmensen for this evening's contest. (Wed. Dec 7, 2005)

Viktor Kozlov - #22 - Center - 6'5" - 233lbs

News: Viktor Kozov scored the shootout winning goal as New Jersey downed Minnesota 3-2 this afternoon.

Impact: Kozlov also had the tying goal for New Jersey, with Jay Pandolfo adding the other Devils' marker. Brian Rolston and Andrei Zyuzin replied for Minnesota. Kozlov's goal gives him 7 points in his last 5 games, so he should be in your active lineup while he continues to play well. (Sun. Dec 4, 2005)

Schedule - December 2005

Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat

1 2 3

MIN W3-2 4 5 6 @ DET L5-2 7 CAL L4-1 8 9 COL 7:30 10 11 @ CLS 5:00 12 13 EDM 7:30 14 15 ATL 7:30 16 17 @ CAR 7:00 18 19 20 @ NYR 7:00 21 @ NYI 7:30 22 23 ATL 7:30 24 25 26 @ TOR 7:30 27 28 WAS 7:30 29 @ PIT 7:30 30 31 TOR

7:00 Home All Times ET Complete Schedule | Check Local Listings on FSN

Atlantic Division Standings

Team W L OTL Pts Pct

N.Y. Rangers 19 8 4 42 .677

Philadelphia 16 7 4 36 .667

N.Y. Islanders 14 12 2 30 .536

New Jersey 13 12 2 28 .519

Pittsburgh 7 15 6 20 .357

Complete Standings

TEAM LEADERS

Points Brian Gionta 29

Goals Brian Gionta 16

Assists Scott Gomez 14

+/- Viktor Kozlov +2

PIM Jamie Langenbrunner 34

Wins Martin Brodeur 11

GAA Martin Brodeur 3.11

SV% Martin Brodeur .892

League Ranks

NJ Conf Rank NHL Rank

Goals 82 11 19

Goals Allowed 89 6 17

Shots per game 29.6 10 16

Shots allowed per game 29.5 7 17

Power play % 18.0 9 14

Penalty kill % 83.1 11 21

Complete Team Stats

Depth Chart

Position First Team

C Viktor Kozlov

LW Jay Pandolfo

RW Brian Gionta

D Colin White

D Brian Rafalski

G Martin Brodeur

Full Depth Chart

Transactions

12/1 Barry Tallackson (RW) Sent to minors Albany-AHL

11/25 Brad Ference (D) Sent to minors Albany-AHL

11/25 Brad Ference (D) Traded for P. Rheaume, R. Schultz, & S. Spencer

11/17 Tuomas Pihlman (LW) Called up from minors from Albany-AHL

11/12 Cam Janssen (RW) Sent to minors Albany - AHL

Hello all, I am by no means an electrician, but I do have a question.

I am in the process of looking to buy a house, and my realitor had

said that once we find a house I like, to get a 15 Point Safety

Inspection. I called the electrical company that she suggested, but

they really didn't explain what all was done. My question is this.

1. What would ALL be tested in this inspection (as much detail as

possible please, remember I am not an electrician)For all of you

electrical contractors, if I were to have called about this, what

would your list include?

2. Is this really needed in buying a newer home, meaning, is this

just a marketing thing with the realitor and electrical company?

3. If I do decide to have this inspection, what would be a reasonable

price to pay (Seattle Washington area)

I could see if I was buying an older home, but don't want to be taken

advantage of.

Thank you to all that take the time to reply

Jason

[This message has been edited by Jason_H (edited 12-06-2005).]

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JoeTestingEngr

Member posted 12-06-2005 06:37 PM

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Jason, You said that you talked to your realitor. Have you asked your

proposed lending institution or insurer for recommendations? You would

be penny wise and dollar foolish to not have one done.

Joe

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Moderator posted 12-06-2005 06:58 PM

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There are Home Inspection Services that check all the conditions of a

home, if they find a problem in any area of construction, they will

recommend you contact someone in that field to investigate the

problem.

Here is a site that may help you locate a Home Inspector,

http://www.findaninspector.us/

15 Point Safety Inspection, sounds like something for your car, not

your electrical system. Call the electrician in if a problem is

uncovered in the Home Inspection.

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We'd like to get a thread going with some pictures of Holiday

Lighting that we run across.

I know we all see some real nice displays this time of year.

Text with how they were done, or any special "twists" would also be

welcome.

How about it? What better place than ECN for a collection like this?

Please email any to me at

electure@sbcglobal.net

and I'll put them up, or you can send them to

webmaster@electrical-contractor.net

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Just to add maybe a little to lamplighters comments, I am changing a

service tommorrow on a house that was suppose to have had a

homeowner's inspection 5 years ago, but whoever did the inspection,

failed to note to the buyer, that the service riser wires were frayed

and in bad shape (outside insulation pratically gone). Now they're

having the whole service changed, Outside meter etc. and subpanel on

inside. Something like this I think should have been noted to the

homeowner. The possibility of loosing the neutral on the riser could

cause major damage to their appliances etc. within the house. I've

had at least 2 calls in probably the last year, where the homeowner

has lost appliances because of this. Hope this helps and adds to the

other suggestions already given....Steve

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sparkync,

We do a large amount of inspection repairs, and when you find a

problem, and they say they had an inspection 5 years ago, ask for

their inspection report, most of the time, they either had no

inspection done, or they had the inspection, and decided to let the

problem wait, they act supprised, and say the home inspector never

found that.

gfretwell

Member posted 12-08-2005 12:05 AM

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The job of a home inspector is to point out issues that may be

important to the buyer. Whether they were legal or not when the house

was built isn't important. The seller always has the option of saying

the house is sold as is and let the buyer decide if they want to buy

another one.

A great example would be a house that only has a 60a service. it is

very possible that this is the way houses were built in the 40s or

50s but that is not reasonable today.

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Equipment and System Components

What are PV cells, modules, and arrays?

Cell:

The basic unit of a PV system is the cell. First a silicon crystal is

grown into a bar shape called an ingot. This is then cut into thin

slices and electrodes are attached to create the cells.

Module:

A module is a package in which a set of cells are arranged in rows

and covered with sturdy glass so that they can be mounted on a roof.

Array:

An array consists of multiple modules (panels) arranged either in

series or in parallel and mounted on a frame.

What is conversion efficiency?

The conversion efficiency expresses the percentage of light energy

from the sun that is actually converted into electricity.

The following formula can be used to calculate the conversion

efficiency of a PV module.*

* Calculation using exterior dimensions with protrusions omitted.

Equipment and Installation

What is the ideal roof gradient?

The ideal PV panel angle from the standpoint of volume of

electricity generated is 30 degrees in Japan. Though there are

regional variations when installation and maintenance are taken into

account, there should be no problem if the roof gradient is between

20 and 40 degrees. This amount of variation from the ideal will only

result in a difference of about 2% in the amount of electricity

produced.

Are only roofs with a southern exposure suitable for installation of

PV arrays?

Which direction does your roof face? The amount of electricity

produced differs depending on the orientation of the roof. Make sure

to confirm the orientation of your roof before installing PV panels.

Note that it is also possible to combine panels oriented east and

west, for example, in the same system.

Here's a link with more info about how to do animated displays like

the house in the video:

http://computerchristmas.com/index.phtml

Care and Maintenance

What is the durability and service life of a typical system?

Service life: Typically, PV modules have a service life exceeding 20

years. The other equipment used in the system employs parts with a

design service life of about 10 years.

gj�r. I f�lge dette link skal den gj�re i mellom 13 og 9 C

Min erfaring(som er liten) med lagergj�r er at den er lagsommere enn

ale

gj�r. Mine lager brygg tar det dobbelt av hva jeg bruker p� en ale.

Jeg ville ikke sette den tilbake til 24C, fordi den kan gi noen

andre

smakstoffer enn det du vil ha i din pilsner.

Sjekke din gravity etter en uke, med tre dagers mellomrum. Er

gravityen

fallende skal den bli v�rende der den er. Hvis ikke, kan du omstikke

den, selv om det er flere som ikke synes

det er n�dvending.

Lykke til med bryggingen og la oss h�re hvordan det g�r.

Mh Pl /2880

PS. Det er ingen stavefeil, det st�r bare p� norsk

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From: "Get Andn"

TM:

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From:  "Susan Gooley" <susangwekt@learningroomnet.com>
Subject:  Employment status Bob
Date:  Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:14:13 -0500
>Why break your back everday when there is a more
>efficient way to make that living of yours?
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>I have a thing for comics. (I spent about a year doing stand-up about a million years ago. And yes, I know Jerry Seinfeld. We went to Parkside Junior High School in Massapequa NY. I have the graduation program to prove it, too. Thanks for saving it, Grandma.)
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>Tom Teska is a very funny guy. He's also an adult Korean adoptee. Here's a sample from his blog. Prepare to be offended. Then read the rest of the blog. Some great stuff.
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>Tom Teska - South Korea Needs Babies
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>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 10:03 PM   0 comments
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>Korea Single Moms, Divorced or Widowed, and Their Kids - Tough Going
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>When we wonder why unmarried women in Korea still consider adoption as a viable option, here's another look as to why
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>Single mothers work, shop, help with homework, and are often challenged by the numerous demands of family life. In the eyes of their children they are often heroes, but in South Korea, single parents are treated with disdain
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>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 9:54 PM   0 comments
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>Saturday, November 26, 2005
>More birthfamily musings
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>As I was giving my son his usual nighttime routine - hugs, go get water, drink water, toss cup into trash for 2 points, more hugs - he wanted to know if his birth parents thought about him.
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>"How old would she be now?"
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>"She still couldn't raise me?"
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>"No, honey. She was a young, scared single woman when she had you. Korea makes it very hard for unmarried moms to raise their babies. But she'll always be a mom to you because you carry a piece of her inside you always. But I'm the lucky mom because I got to raise you and watch you grow every day. When we visit Korea in a few years we'll check out your file and see what else we can find out."
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>During teacher conference, she remarked how relaxed and comfortable my son is in his own skin. Sociable and helpful, friendly and sensitive to others -- she never would have know he was the new boy in school. She also noted his insatiable need to know about people - how they were when children, their favorite shows, foods, etc.
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>Tuesday, November 22, 2005
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>Friday, November 18, 2005
>Finding a place in 2 worlds
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>Saw this article:
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>Monday, November 14, 2005
>Race Matters - and a whole lot more.
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>Yahoo news has a report this morning regarding bullying in schools,
>specifically targeting Asians--a distressing read to start the week
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>Asian Youths Suffer Harassment in Schools
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>posted by Roberta Rosenberg @ 12:19 PM   0 comments
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>Sunday, November 13, 2005
>Been hectic!
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>We went to a bat mitzvah this past weekend, last kid of the original group of 4 who started Torah for Tots when they were all age 3. (Can't believe how fast 10 years goes by.)
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>Tuesday, October 25, 2005
>Another "Why Don't They Get It!" Moment
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>Article from the Chicago Sun-Times:
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>Doll 'adoptions' are offensive, say real-life adoption advocates
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>Amen, Brother.
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From:  NewYearsParty <agoodtime@eval-romance.com>
Subject:  New Year's Surprise just for Bob
Date:  Fri, 9 Dec 2005 19:29:06 CST

Dear  Friends, If you cannot view the images in this message, enable images or visit here to see this newsletter.

E poi, diciamo la verita', quanti sono gli italiani, in Italia come

all'estero, che conoscono l'italiano ma non si interessano di

politica e tanto meno del cosiddetto "teatrino" della stessa?

Non sara' che l'ostacolo alla partecipazione non e' la lingua ma il

disinteresse suscitato da un certo modo di "fare politica"?

Tonio 2005-12-08 13:08 Il bonus pensioni, pro e contro

Sono al bivio: arrivare ai 40 col bonus o senza? Vedo che non se ne

parla sul Forum e i pareri da me raccolti si equivalgono. Propenderei

per il no. Mi aiutate?

Tonio 2005-12-08 13:08 Il bonus pensioni, pro e contro Ne abbiamo

parlato qualche mese fa. restano validi i suggerimenti dati allora.

Eccoli:

La scelta � di carattere squisitamente personale. A qualcuno, ad

esempio, pu� far comodo l'aumento dello stipendio netto che si

ottiene grazie al bonus pensionistico (il 33% dello stipendio). A

qualcun altro pu� far piacere poter contare su una pensione un po'

pi� ricca e quindi continuare a lavorare con il normale accredito dei

contributi. La scelta del bonus, infatti, fa sterilizzare la pensione

che verr� erogata in base all'importo maturato fino a quel momento

pi� gli scatti di scala mobile intervenuti successivamente e fino al

momento dell'effettivo pensionamento.

In linea di massima si pu� dire che, se lo stipendio annuo lordo

supera i 37.000 euro, il bonus � pi� conveniente e la convenienza

cresce all'aumentare del reddito. Questo per effetto dell'Ire che �

una imposta progressiva e per il fatto che oltre i 37.884 euro di

stipendio le aliquote di calcolo della pensione sono decrescenti. In

altre parole un anno di lavoro non vale pi� il 2%, ma sempre meno al

salire del reddito, fino a scendere allo 0,9%.

L'effetto dell'Ire non va sottovalutato. Con una retribuzione lorda

annua di 24.000 euro, il bonus porta a un aumento mensile di circa

600 euro netti, il 45% in pi� dello stipendio. A 35.000 euro

l'incremento mensile � di circa 815 euro, pi� 48%. Il dirigente con

una retribuzione lorda di 59.000 euro ne guadagna 1.378 in pi� al

mese con un incremento del 53%. Il manager con 80.000 euro di

retribuzione lorda annua vede crescere la sua busta paga di quasi

1.900 euro netti al mese, che corrispondono a un incremento di quasi

il 55%.

Umberto Martinengo, e-mail: umberto@coasit.com.au

Non se n'abbia a male, caro Martinengo, ma le obiezioni sarebbero

cos� tante che rinuncio ad affrontare tutti i punti della sua

lettera. Lei mescola argomenti diversi e ne trae conclusioni curiose.

Ripeto: conoscere un poco la lingua italiana sarebbe doveroso, per

chi

vuole la cittadinanza. Dimostrerebbe interesse per l'Italia e

aiuterebbe a capire per chi/per cosa si vota. Il resto - mi perdoni -

sono chiacchiere. Se vuole continuare la discussione, caro

Martinengo,

risponda a questa domanda: � vero o non � vero che moltissimi nel

mondo chiedono il passaporto italiano solo per convenienza, e non

hanno alcun interesse per l'Italia? Chieda un po' nei nostri

consolati, e vedr� cosa le dicono.

Lo diceva anche Massimo D'Alema, giorni fa (mi fa una certa

impressione trovarmi d'accordo con lui: ma tant'�). Perch� la moglie

del presidente brasiliano Lula deve avere il passaporto italiano e un

"foglietto in italiano che non aveva neppure ben capito" (il

certificato elettorale!)? Solo perch� la bisnonna aveva sposato un

italiano? Non sarebbe meglio premiare gli uomini e le donne che, da

molti anni, vivono, lavorano e pagano le tasse in Italia, e si sono

sempre comportati bene?

Paggetti

gioved�, 08 dicembre 2005

...chi porter� con me?

In quanti, da duemila e pi� di mille e mille e mille ancora di anni

fa, mi hanno portato qui?

Dal paradiso terrestre, diciamo?

Io non voglio portare nessuno negli anni tremila.

Non trovo niente di interessante tranne la comunicazione che valga la

pena non mollare.

Ancora guerre. Ancora morti di fame. Ancora fuggiaschi. Ancora esuli.

Ancora povert�.

Ancora ricchezza.

Tutti i figli che avrei voluto e non ho potuto avere non se ne

pentiranno, quelli che non mi hanno voluto padre non ce l'avrebbero

fatta. Dan McGillis - #6 - Defense - 6'2" - 230lbs

News: Dan McGillis was a healthy scratch against the Red Wings last

night.

Impact: It was the second straight game the Devils' defenseman was

forced to sit in the press box. With Sean Brown playing so well,

coach Larry Robinson has been forced to rotate his blueliners in and

out of the lineup. Expect this practice to continue. (Thu. Dec 8,

2005)

Scott Clemmensen - #40 - Goaltender - 6'3" - 205lbs

News: Scott Clemmensen will likely start in goal for the Devils this

evening against the Red Wings.

Impact: The New Jersey backup hasn't played in a month and we are not

sure that a date with Detroit is the best spot for him to return to

action. We would advise you not to activate Clemmensen for this

evening's contest. (Wed. Dec 7, 2005)

Viktor Kozlov - #22 - Center - 6'5" - 233lbs

News: Viktor Kozov scored the shootout winning goal as New Jersey

downed Minnesota 3-2 this afternoon.

Impact: Kozlov also had the tying goal for New Jersey, with Jay

Pandolfo adding the other Devils' marker. Brian Rolston and Andrei

Zyuzin replied for Minnesota. Kozlov's goal gives him 7 points in his

last 5 games, so he should be in your active lineup while he continues

to play well. (Sun. Dec 4, 2005)

Schedule - December 2005

Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat

1 2 3

MIN W3-2 4 5 6 @ DET L5-2 7 CAL L4-1 8 9 COL 7:30 10 11 @ CLS

5:00 12 13 EDM 7:30 14 15 ATL 7:30 16 17 @ CAR 7:00 18 19 20 @

NYR 7:00 21 @ NYI 7:30 22 23 ATL 7:30 24 25 26 @ TOR 7:30 27 28

WAS 7:30 29 @ PIT 7:30 30 31 TOR

7:00 Home All Times ET Complete Schedule | Check Local

Listings on FSN

Atlantic Division Standings

Team W L OTL Pts Pct

N.Y. Rangers 19 8 4 42 .677

Philadelphia 16 7 4 36 .667

N.Y. Islanders 14 12 2 30 .536

New Jersey 13 12 2 28 .519

Pittsburgh 7 15 6 20 .357

Complete Standings

TEAM LEADERS

Points Brian Gionta 29

Goals Brian Gionta 16

Assists Scott Gomez 14

+/- Viktor Kozlov +2

PIM Jamie Langenbrunner 34

Wins Martin Brodeur 11

GAA Martin Brodeur 3.11

SV% Martin Brodeur .892

League Ranks

NJ Conf Rank NHL Rank

Goals 82 11 19

Goals Allowed 89 6 17

Shots per game 29.6 10 16

Shots allowed per game 29.5 7 17

Power play % 18.0 9 14

Penalty kill % 83.1 11 21

Complete Team Stats

Depth Chart

Position First Team

C Viktor Kozlov

LW Jay Pandolfo

RW Brian Gionta

D Colin White

D Brian Rafalski

G Martin Brodeur

Full Depth Chart

Transactions

12/1 Barry Tallackson (RW) Sent to minors Albany-AHL

11/25 Brad Ference (D) Sent to minors Albany-AHL

11/25 Brad Ference (D) Traded for P. Rheaume, R. Schultz, & S.

Spencer

11/17 Tuomas Pihlman (LW) Called up from minors from Albany-AHL

11/12 Cam Janssen (RW) Sent to minors Albany - AHL

Hello all, I am by no means an electrician, but I do have a question.

I am in the process of looking to buy a house, and my realitor had

said that once we find a house I like, to get a 15 Point Safety

Inspection. I called the electrical company that she suggested, but

they really didn't explain what all was done. My question is this.

1. What would ALL be tested in this inspection (as much detail as

possible please, remember I am not an electrician)For all of you

electrical contractors, if I were to have called about this, what

would your list include?

2. Is this really needed in buying a newer home, meaning, is this

just a marketing thing with the realitor and electrical company?

3. If I do decide to have this inspection, what would be a reasonable

price to pay (Seattle Washington area)

I could see if I was buying an older home, but don't want to be taken

advantage of.

Thank you to all that take the time to reply

Jason

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Jason, You said that you talked to your realitor. Have you asked your

proposed lending institution or insurer for recommendations? You

would

be penny wise and dollar foolish to not have one done.

Joe

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There are Home Inspection Services that check all the conditions of a

home, if they find a problem in any area of construction, they will

recommend you contact someone in that field to investigate the

problem.

Here is a site that may help you locate a Home Inspector,

http://www.findaninspector.us/

15 Point Safety Inspection, sounds like something for your car, not

your electrical system. Call the electrician in if a problem is

uncovered in the Home Inspection.

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We'd like to get a thread going with some pictures of Holiday

Lighting that we run across.

I know we all see some real nice displays this time of year.

Text with how they were done, or any special "twists" would also be

welcome.

How about it? What better place than ECN for a collection like this?

Please email any to me at

electure@sbcglobal.net

and I'll put them up, or you can send them to

webmaster@electrical-contractor.net

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Just to add maybe a little to lamplighters comments, I am changing a

service tommorrow on a house that was suppose to have had a

homeowner's inspection 5 years ago, but whoever did the inspection,

failed to note to the buyer, that the service riser wires were frayed

and in bad shape (outside insulation pratically gone). Now they're

having the whole service changed, Outside meter etc. and subpanel on

inside. Something like this I think should have been noted to the

homeowner. The possibility of loosing the neutral on the riser could

cause major damage to their appliances etc. within the house. I've

had at least 2 calls in probably the last year, where the homeowner

has lost appliances because of this. Hope this helps and adds to the

other suggestions already given....Steve

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sparkync,

We do a large amount of inspection repairs, and when you find a

problem, and they say they had an inspection 5 years ago, ask for

their inspection report, most of the time, they either had no

inspection done, or they had the inspection, and decided to let the

problem wait, they act supprised, and say the home inspector never

found that.

gfretwell

Member posted 12-08-2005 12:05 AM

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The job of a home inspector is to point out issues that may be

important to the buyer. Whether they were legal or not when the house

was built isn't important. The seller always has the option of saying

the house is sold as is and let the buyer decide if they want to buy

another one.

A great example would be a house that only has a 60a service. it is

very possible that this is the way houses were built in the 40s or

50s but that is not reasonable today.

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Equipment and System Components

What are PV cells, modules, and arrays?

Cell:

The basic unit of a PV system is the cell. First a silicon crystal is

grown into a bar shape called an ingot. This is then cut into thin

slices and electrodes are attached to create the cells.

Module:

A module is a package in which a set of cells are arranged in rows

and covered with sturdy glass so that they can be mounted on a roof.

Array:

An array consists of multiple modules (panels) arranged either in

series or in parallel and mounted on a frame.

What is conversion efficiency?

The conversion efficiency expresses the percentage of light energy

from the sun that is actually converted into electricity.

The following formula can be used to calculate the conversion

efficiency of a PV module.*

* Calculation using exterior dimensions with protrusions omitted.

Equipment and Installation

What is the ideal roof gradient?

The ideal PV panel angle from the standpoint of volume of

electricity generated is 30 degrees in Japan. Though there are

regional variations when installation and maintenance are taken into

account, there should be no problem if the roof gradient is between

20 and 40 degrees. This amount of variation from the ideal will only

result in a difference of about 2% in the amount of electricity

produced.

Are only roofs with a southern exposure suitable for installation of

PV arrays?

Which direction does your roof face? The amount of electricity

produced differs depending on the orientation of the roof. Make sure

to confirm the orientation of your roof before installing PV panels.

Note that it is also possible to combine panels oriented east and

west, for example, in the same system.

Here's a link with more info about how to do animated displays like

the house in the video:

http://computerchristmas.com/index.phtml

Care and Maintenance

What is the durability and service life of a typical system?

Service life: Typically, PV modules have a service life exceeding 20

years. The other equipment used in the system employs parts with a

design service life of about 10 years.

gj�r. I f�lge dette link skal den gj�re i mellom 13 og 9 C

Min erfaring(som er liten) med lagergj�r er at den er lagsommere enn

ale

gj�r. Mine lager brygg tar det dobbelt av hva jeg bruker p� en ale.

Jeg ville ikke sette den tilbake til 24C, fordi den kan gi noen

andre

smakstoffer enn det du vil ha i din pilsner.

Sjekke din gravity etter en uke, med tre dagers mellomrum. Er

gravityen

fallende skal den bli v�rende der den er. Hvis ikke, kan du omstikke

den, gymnastchick26@hotmail.com selv om det er flere som ikke synes

det er n�dvending.

Lykke til med bryggingen og la oss h�re hvordan det g�r.

Mh Pl /2880

PS. Det er ingen stavefeil, det st�r bare p� norsk

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Bloccato il corteo anti-Tav, ci sono scontri Lancio di oggetti contro

i poliziotti, volano manganellate, sparati lacrimogeni. I comitati si

riappropriano delle aree dei cantieri STRUMENTIVERSIONE STAMPABILEI

PIU' LETTIINVIA QUESTO ARTICOLO

Un momento degli scontri alle porte di Venaus (Ansa)

VENAUS (Torino) - Il corteo da Susa a Venaus convocato per protestare

contro l'apertura dei cantieri della Tav � stato bloccato dopo un paio

di chilometri dalla partenza da un doppio cordone di poliziotti e

carabinieri e sono in corso scontri tra le forze dell'ordine e i

manifestanti. La sfilata � stata fermata al �bivio dei passeggeri�,

che separa la strada statale con la via principale di accesso a

Venaus. I manifestanti, che come per la marcia Bussoleno-Susa dei

giorni scorsi avevano portato anche i bambini, hanno reagito con un

fuggi fuggi. Tra le persone alla testa del corteo ci sarebbero anche

dei contusi. Non � ancora chiaro il motivo per cui ai manifestanti �

stato impedito di raggiungere Venaus e sembra che nella concitazione

del faccia a faccia siano stati sparati anche dei lacrimogeni.

TENTATIVI DI SFONDAMENTO - La partecipazione alla manifestazione �

notevole: 30 mila persone secondo gli organizzatori - valligiani ma

anche gruppi di supporto giunti un po' da tutto il Nord e il Centro

Italia e tra loro ci sarebbero anche gruppi dell'area anarchica -,

molti di pi� stando alle stime di alcuni giornalisti della tv che

stanno seguendo la manifestazione. I messaggi inviati dagli attivisti

del comitato NoTav al proprio sito internet parlano anche di tentativi

di sfondamento, di manganellate da parte dei poliziotti e di lanci di

oggetti da parte dei manifestanti. Alcuni gruppi hanno aggirato il

blocco delle forze dell'ordine spostandosi su altre strade e

attraverso campi e boschi. Qualcuno si � inoltrato sui vecchi

percorsi utilizzati dai partigiani durante la Resistenza e per quella

via � riuscito a raggiungere la zona dei cantieri. Alcune persone

hanno attraversato l'autostrada Torino-Bardonecchia, che � stata

temporaneamente chiusa in entrambe le direzioni tra Avigliana e

Ulzio.

LA MEDIAZIONE -I sindaci dei comuni della zona, che fin da subito

erano

Una valligiana fronteggia i carabinieri a Venaus (Reuters)

stati alla testa del corteo, hanno cercato di fare opera di

mediazione per tentare di rasserenare gli animi. Le forze dell'ordine

si erano dette disponibili a lasciare passare una delegazione di poche

centinaia di persone, mentre tutti gli altri avrebbero dovuto fermarsi

all'esterno del territorio comunale.

CANTIERI OCCUPATI - Il timore degli agenti era probabilmente che che

i valligiani intervenendo in massa potessero �riprendersi� le aree

occupate dai cantieri dopo lo sgombero della notte tra luned� e

marted�. Cosa che poi � puntualmente avvenuta. Inizialmente sono

stati circa 2000 i manifestanti arrivati nella zona degli scavi: le

forze dell'ordine hanno tentato di trattenerli con il lancio di

lacrimogeni ma poi hanno deciso di arretrare. Il numero di persone

arrivate a dare manforte ai comitati locali � progressivamente

aumentato. Sono state divelte le recinzioni mentre alcuni gruppi

hanno ricominciato a costruire barricate. Da Torino sono per� state

inviati nuovi rinforzi per poliziotti e carabinieri.

�Ci siamo ripresi il terreno che ci era stato usurpato�, ha detto il

sindaco di Venaus, Nilo Durbano, anche lui tra i manifestanti che

hanno occupatol'area del cantiere per l'alta velocit�. Sul prato

verde, al tramonto erano ancora radunate migliaia di persone, anche

se con il trascorrere delle ore � iniziato un lento deflusso verso

valle. I dimostranti non hanno ancora valutato che cosa fare nelle

prossime ore. Alcuni hanno espresso l' intenzione di presidiare la

zona per tutta la notte, ma una decisione in questo senso non �

ancora stata presa. Intanto,servendosi di un microfono gente comune,

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Jg har ikke spesifikk erfaring med den p�gjeldene gj�r, dog har jeg

erfaring med annen lager gj�r, Bavarian lager

Jeg lot mitt brygg gj�re i 3 uker f�r jeg stakk om, men hevet ikke

temperaturen slik du skriver og som det er kommet forslag om.

Jeg forholdt meg til oppskriften til de to normenn som vant

jule�lkonkuransen i Nor De benyttet en danish lager og

lot brygget st� � gj�re i 5 uker p� ca 8 grader f�r den ble flasket.

Om det

er riktig at man skal heve temperaturen vet jeg ikke. Jeg gj�r det

ikke.

Noen ganger tar det bare den tid det tar.

Brygg en ale, mellom din lager brygg, det gj�r jeg .

Mh Pl /2880

Husk det er ingen stavefeil det st�r bare p� norsk

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